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Alex Tsakiris: Help me understand what you were looking for at that point, because one of the problems with this topic and you eluded to it a little bit is — atheistic folks latch on to this idea — like you just said and it’s not just Allegro, many people since have said, “It’s a way to kind of write off Christianity and religion in general. Hey, there’s nothing divine, there’s no extended consciousness realm, it’s just people tripping, you know, that’s all it is.” So, there’s that part of it, but then there’s also the deep spirituality part that says, “This is some doorway connection to these extended consciousness realms that join all religions.” Links from this episode: (Log in or Create an Account first!) A tender film exploring psilocybin and the nature of consciousness